LISTSERV mailing list manager LISTSERV 16.0

Help for MICE-DISCUSS Archives


MICE-DISCUSS Archives

MICE-DISCUSS Archives


MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET


View:

Message:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Topic:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Author:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

Font:

Proportional Font

LISTSERV Archives

LISTSERV Archives

MICE-DISCUSS Home

MICE-DISCUSS Home

MICE-DISCUSS  September 2016

MICE-DISCUSS September 2016

Subject:

Re: EX4200 (1G Switch) Packet Loss -> 10G Participants

From:

Jeremy Lumby <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

MICE Discuss <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 22 Sep 2016 13:46:00 -0500

Content-Type:

text/plain

Parts/Attachments:

Parts/Attachments

text/plain (287 lines)

Jay,

	I am doing the physical install of the switch now, and I see 0/2/3 is in use.  The cross connect/participants list shows Hoyos  I see 0/0/1 is available, as well as 0/1/3, and 0/2/2

Jeremy.

-----Original Message-----
From: MICE Discuss [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jason Hanke
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 4:25 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] EX4200 (1G Switch) Packet Loss -> 10G Participants

Here is the IP:

MICE Core 1G EX4200-24T
206.108.255.244/24
2001:504:27:0:0:D1AF::244/64

I believe this is LAG10 on the core side:
xe-0/2/3
xe-2/0/16

On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Ryan Goldberg <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Just note: no DACs or optics, so no way to connect at 10gig unless someone brings some snacks
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: MICE Discuss [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jeremy Lumby
> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 4:14 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] EX4200 (1G Switch) Packet Loss -> 10G Participants
>
> I will probably be there tomorrow to assist in the physical portion of the installation with Doug/Anthony.  I volunteer to be the guinea pig, and test for loss prior to scheduling a maintenance window to cut over the other 1G members on.
>
> Jay, could you give us port assignments for the L2 link to the 4500s, and an IP for the new switch.
>
> Thanks,
> Jeremy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: MICE Discuss [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ryan Goldberg
> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 4:07 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] EX4200 (1G Switch) Packet Loss -> 10G Participants
>
> Ok, it's there.  Firmwared (holy crap I forget the hell that is the time commitment to firmware ex4200) to as listed below and with c13/c14 cables and stacking cables.
>
> me0.0 is dhcp
>
> root is mice987z
>
> admin is mice987z
>
> ssh is on
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: MICE Discuss [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ryan Goldberg
> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 12:06 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] EX4200 (1G Switch) Packet Loss -> 10G Participants
>
> Pulled jinstall-ex-4200-12.3R12.4-domestic-signed just now.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: MICE Discuss [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Andrew Hoyos
> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 12:05 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] EX4200 (1G Switch) Packet Loss -> 10G Participants
>
> JTAC recommended is R12.  Looking at the release notes, seems like a bunch of minor stuff, but a few PFE crash related fixes that apply to EX4200.
>
> --
> Andrew Hoyos
> [log in to unmask]
>
>
>
>> On Sep 21, 2016, at 12:01 PM, Jeremy Lumby <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> Probably makes sense to match the current version on the other
>> switches of 12.3R9-S1
>>
>> From: MICE Discuss [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
>> Of Ryan Goldberg
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 11:58 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] EX4200 (1G Switch) Packet Loss -> 10G
>> Participants
>>
>> Ok, so I’ll leave the 4200-24 with the 2x 10gig and a stacking cable.
>>
>> Anyone have a firmware preference?  Or just current juniper recommend?
>>
>> From: MICE Discuss [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
>> Of Ryan Goldberg
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 8:38 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] EX4200 (1G Switch) Packet Loss -> 10G
>> Participants
>>
>> I’m only partially tracking the thread but wasn’t there going to be a normal 2 x 10gig LAG into the “new” switch?
>>
>> Either way, I have available today:
>>
>> 1 x 4200-48 poe with the 2 x sfp+ module and 2 x PS
>> 2 x 4200-24 with the 2 x sfp+ module and 2 x PS
>> 1 x 3300
>> 1 x HP 28284 J
>> 3 x 4200/4500 stacking cables
>>
>> I can default and leave one of these in the mice cabinet.  No extra optics or DACs today…  I can leave a stacking cable though.
>>
>> I’d like to do the defaulting/(and firmwaring) this AM around 10:30 and would deliver to mice cabinet around 2pm.
>>
>> So, whoever wants to make the final “I’LL TAKE THAT ONE” call lemme know and I’ll deliver.
>>
>> You can also drop me a line at 218-390-5485.
>>
>> Ryan
>>
>>
>>
>> From: MICE Discuss [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
>> Of Levi Pederson
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 8:28 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] EX4200 (1G Switch) Packet Loss -> 10G
>> Participants
>>
>> All,
>>
>> 3300's Can't join a Mixed 45**.  We'd have to monitor it separately.  Troubleshooting, monitoring and management would be easier with another 4200/4500/4550.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>>
>> Levi Pederson
>> Mankato Networks LLC
>> cell | 612.481.0769
>> work | 612.787.7392
>> [log in to unmask]
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 10:04 PM, Ben Wiechman <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> We may have a couple EX3300 as well. I can check tomorrow if there is any interest.
>>
>>
>> On Sep 20, 2016 4:50 PM, "Ryan Goldberg" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> provided my work tonight goes as planned I can leave a:
>>
>> FPC 2            REV 18   750-021255   BQ0209437984      EX4200-48P, 48 POE
>>   CPU                     BUILTIN      BUILTIN           FPC CPU
>>   PIC 0                   BUILTIN      BUILTIN           48x 10/100/1000 Base-T
>>   PIC 1          REV 04   711-026017   CH0209419573      2x 10GE SFP+
>>
>>
>> in the mice cabinet (or elsewhere).
>>
>> note: no optics...  but I could leave a couple DACs probably
>>
>> I could leave 24 port non-POE 4200 if preferred.  Why do I have 48 port poe switch at 511?  So many questions....
>>
>> Or........ I may have a 3300-24 available, which gives 4x SFP+ instead.
>>
>> Any preferences whilst I rummage through my oddball grab bag?
>>
>>
>> From: MICE Discuss <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of
>> Jeremy Lumby <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 3:45 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] EX4200 (1G Switch) Packet Loss -> 10G
>> Participants
>>
>> I am in favor, THANKS GUYS!!!
>>
>> From: MICE Discuss [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
>> Of Jason Hanke
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 3:41 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] EX4200 (1G Switch) Packet Loss -> 10G
>> Participants
>>
>> Compudyne has offered to donate an EX4200 with a 2x10G uplink card to MICE to help the cause.
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 3:31 PM, Jeremy Lumby <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> I am in favor of a regular layer 2 uplink.  I think the main reason I feel this way is it is industry standard, and then the switch has its own forwarding table.  We have seen issues in the past where if the link on a high volume port goes down, the MAC gets removed from the forwarding table, and then all of that traffic gets flooded to all other ports until BGP times out.  This seems to be especially problematic when it hits the 1G ports.
>>
>> My vision of a future upgrade would be something along the lines of a 5200, or equiv from another manufacturer that has all of the other switches uplinked to it.  Then we would have separate forwarding tables, a place to connect remote switches, as well as something that has some 40G, and 100G capabilities.  All of the uplinks would then be easy to monitor/graph without excessive load on the switch.  Copper SFP+/QSFP+ cables can be used between switches and they are affordable/easy to come by.
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: MICE Discuss [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
>> Of Doug McIntyre
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 3:15 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] EX4200 (1G Switch) Packet Loss -> 10G
>> Participants
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 02:23:00PM -0500, Jeremy Lumby wrote:
>> > That would make sense, then we are just down to how traffic can
>> > leave the 4200 without going across a vcp
>>
>> Most likely we'd have to kick off (umm. move) the three members that
>> are fiber 1G connections in the expansion slot on the 4200, get a 10G
>> card, optics for both sides, etc.  Then decide if we are going to run
>> virtual chassis protocol, or just layer-2 uplink into the two other switches.
>>
>> Or we move the 19 active 1G copper members + 3 1G fiber members off
>> the 4200 altogether and eat up ports on the 4550 with 19 copper SFPs.
>> Then we wouldn't have to do "Mixed-mode Virtual-Chassis" then either.
>>
>> > Although- it looks like so far all the paths with loss seem to have "vcp-1" in them?
>>
>> As I've stated multiple times, I think since VCP is active/passive,
>> there is only one active ring around the the VC through VCP-1 now, and
>> I would expect to see vcp-1 in all paths through the EX4200.
>>
>> We can swap active and passive with the command I posted previously.
>> That way we can troubleshoot if there is a port/cable issue, or if it
>> is an issue with the device itself.
>>
>> Or it could be a defect in this coderev (although I doubt it).
>>
>>
>> --
>> Doug McIntyre                            <[log in to unmask]>
>>                     ~.~ ipHouse ~.~
>>        Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jay Hanke
>> CTO
>> Neutral Path Communications
>> 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204
>> Mankato, MN 56001
>> (507) 327-2398 mobile
>> [log in to unmask]
>> www.neutralpath.net
>>
>> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link:
>> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1
>>
>>
>> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link:
>> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1
>>
>>
>> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link:
>> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1
>>
>>
>> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link:
>> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1
>>
>>
>>
>> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link:
>> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1
>>
>>
>> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link:
>> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1
>>
>>
>> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link:
>> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1
>>
>>
>> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link:
>> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1
>>
>



-- 
Jay Hanke
CTO
Neutral Path Communications
3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204
Mankato, MN 56001
(507) 327-2398 mobile
[log in to unmask]
www.neutralpath.net

Top of Message | Previous Page | Permalink

Advanced Options


Options

Log In

Log In

Get Password

Get Password


Search Archives

Search Archives


Subscribe or Unsubscribe

Subscribe or Unsubscribe


Archives

October 2024
September 2024
August 2024
July 2024
June 2024
May 2024
April 2024
March 2024
February 2024
January 2024
December 2023
November 2023
October 2023
September 2023
August 2023
July 2023
June 2023
May 2023
April 2023
March 2023
February 2023
January 2023
December 2022
November 2022
October 2022
September 2022
August 2022
July 2022
June 2022
May 2022
April 2022
March 2022
February 2022
January 2022
December 2021
November 2021
October 2021
September 2021
August 2021
July 2021
June 2021
May 2021
April 2021
March 2021
February 2021
January 2021
December 2020
November 2020
October 2020
September 2020
August 2020
July 2020
June 2020
May 2020
April 2020
March 2020
February 2020
January 2020
December 2019
November 2019
October 2019
September 2019
August 2019
July 2019
June 2019
May 2019
April 2019
March 2019
February 2019
January 2019
December 2018
November 2018
October 2018
September 2018
August 2018
July 2018
June 2018
May 2018
April 2018
March 2018
February 2018
January 2018
December 2017
November 2017
October 2017
September 2017
August 2017
July 2017
June 2017
May 2017
April 2017
March 2017
February 2017
January 2017
December 2016
November 2016
October 2016
September 2016
August 2016
July 2016
June 2016
May 2016
April 2016
March 2016
February 2016
January 2016
December 2015
November 2015
October 2015
September 2015
August 2015
July 2015
June 2015
May 2015
April 2015
March 2015
February 2015
January 2015
December 2014
November 2014
October 2014
September 2014
August 2014
July 2014
June 2014
May 2014
April 2014
March 2014
February 2014
January 2014
December 2013
November 2013
October 2013
September 2013
August 2013
July 2013
June 2013
May 2013
April 2013
March 2013
February 2013
January 2013
December 2012
November 2012
October 2012
September 2012
August 2012
July 2012
June 2012
May 2012
April 2012
March 2012
February 2012
January 2012
December 2011
November 2011
October 2011
September 2011
August 2011
July 2011
June 2011
May 2011
April 2011
March 2011
February 2011
January 2011
December 2010
November 2010
October 2010
September 2010
August 2010
July 2010

ATOM RSS1 RSS2



LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET

CataList Email List Search Powered by the LISTSERV Email List Manager