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MICE-DISCUSS January 2022

Subject:

Re: FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire

From:

Michael Hare <[log in to unmask]>

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MICE Discuss <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 18 Jan 2022 15:30:42 +0000

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Sorry Ben, I had read the msg as text not HTML.   I see the table now, thanks. 
 
-Michael 
 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: MICE Discuss <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of Ben 
> Wiechman 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:26 AM 
> To: [log in to unmask] 
> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon 
> Prime Video - Network Questionnaire 
>  
> I shot over what was provided through the survey/questions. If anyone has 
> additional or more detailed information I'd be interested in it as well. 
>  
>  
>  
> Ben Wiechman 
>  
> Director of IP Strategy and Engineering 
>  
>  
> 320.247.3224 | [log in to unmask] 
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]> 
>  
> Arvig | 224 East Main Street | Melrose, MN 56352 | arvig.com 
> <http://arvig.com> 
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 8:17 AM Michael Hare <000000097dab80c5-dmarc- 
> [log in to unmask] <mailto:000000097dab80c5-dmarc- 
> [log in to unmask]> > wrote: 
>  
>  
> 	Anyone willing to share which CDNs either publicly or privately? 
> AS3128 peers with 16509 bilateral over MICE and we haven't seen the below. 
> We are eyeballs but are R&E.  I'd like to make sure my ducks are in a row. 
>  
> 	-Michael 
>  
> 	> -----Original Message----- 
> 	> From: MICE Discuss <[log in to unmask] 
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > On Behalf Of Ben 
> 	> Wiechman 
> 	> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:05 AM 
> 	> To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:MICE- 
> [log in to unmask]> 
> 	> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from 
> Amazon 
> 	> Prime Video - Network Questionnaire 
> 	> 
> 	> They didn't indicate that this was confidential, nor do we have an 
> NDA, so... 
> 	> 
> 	> This is a snippet of the information. 
> 	> 
> 	> CDN Partners 
> 	> 32 Prime Video uses multiple CDN partners to deliver our live 
> content. We 
> 	> deploy a predetermined configuration giving weights to 
> 	> 33 each of the CDNs based on their reported capacity, but the 
> actual live 
> 	> streams delivery is determined by performance. We work 
> 	> 34 with our ISP partners to validate the available capacity so that we 
> do not 
> 	> create undue stress on the ISP network during peak 
> 	> 35 events. The use of multiple CDNs with flexible weights provides 
> us the 
> 	> ability to dynamically shift traffic in case of performance 
> 	> 36 degradation, or outages within a single CDN. 
> 	> 37 The table below summarizes the CDN partners we plan to use 
> (subject to 
> 	> adjustment), and the function and protocol supported 
> 	> 38 by each CDN. The actual traffic load on each CDN partner is 
> based on their 
> 	> performance and available capacity. 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	> Ben Wiechman 
> 	> 
> 	> Director of IP Strategy and Engineering 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	> 320.247.3224 | [log in to unmask] 
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]> 
> 	> <mailto:[log in to unmask] 
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > 
> 	> 
> 	> Arvig | 224 East Main Street | Melrose, MN 56352 | arvig.com 
> <http://arvig.com> 
> 	> <http://arvig.com> 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	> On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 8:00 AM Steve Savoy 
> <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> 
> 	> <mailto:[log in to unmask] 
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > > wrote: 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	>       I’m just jealous that you are able to peer with Amazon. 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	>       Been trying for 2 years now and nothing but ‘crickets’………… 😉 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	>       Steve 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	>       From: MICE Discuss <[log in to unmask] 
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]> 
> 	> <mailto:[log in to unmask] <mailto:MICE- 
> [log in to unmask]> > > On Behalf Of Dean Bahls 
> 	>       Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 6:28 AM 
> 	>       To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:MICE- 
> [log in to unmask]>  <mailto:MICE- <mailto:MICE-> 
> 	> [log in to unmask] 
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > 
> 	>       Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from 
> 	> Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	>       While I haven’t gotten that specific email from them, I’ve gotten 
> 	> several Telegeography emails since 2012.  They are referenced by 
> Light 
> 	> Reading Daily quite a bit.  They *seem* to be a legit research firm 
> contracted 
> 	> by multiple companies. 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	>       The Amazon / TNF partnership is a real deal….and MICE needs to 
> be 
> 	> prepared for a potential uptick in traffic on Thursdays. 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	>       Dean 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	>       From: MICE Discuss <[log in to unmask] 
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]> 
> 	> <mailto:[log in to unmask] <mailto:MICE- 
> [log in to unmask]> > > On Behalf Of 
> 	> [log in to unmask] 
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]> 
> 	> <mailto:[log in to unmask] 
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > 
> 	>       Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 1:27 AM 
> 	>       To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:MICE- 
> [log in to unmask]>  <mailto:MICE- <mailto:MICE-> 
> 	> [log in to unmask] 
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > 
> 	>       Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from 
> Amazon 
> 	> Prime Video - Network Questionnaire 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	>       Has anyone else gotten an email like this? 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	>       On the surface it seems legit, and I always like the opportunity 
> to talk 
> 	> about MICE, but I’m not sure how I feel about sharing such info... 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	>       Thanks in advance, 
> 	> 
> 	>       Anthony 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	>               On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 1:29 PM Nataliya Coll 
> 	> <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> 
> <mailto:[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > > 
> wrote: 
> 	> 
> 	>                       Hi David and Anthony, 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	>                       I am a telecoms analyst with TeleGeography in 
> 	> Washington, DC. We have been contracted by Amazon Prime Video 
> (APV) to 
> 	> survey ISPs across the country in preparation for Prime Video’s 
> exclusive 
> 	> presentation of NFL Thursday Night Football (TNF) starting with the 
> 2022 NFL 
> 	> season. 
> 	> 
> 	>                       The attached letter from Amazon Prime Video 
> 	> provides more detail about their network planning initiative. 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	>                       To help avoid congestion on your network during 
> 	> upcoming games, Amazon is asking us to query you so that they 
> may better 
> 	> understand your network point(s) of contact, service coverage 
> area, CDN 
> 	> provider(s), IP Transit provider(s), etc. 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	>                       Are you the correct contact person within your 
> 	> network operations team to respond to these questions? If not, 
> can you 
> 	> please direct me to the right person within your network 
> operations team? 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	>                       If you have any questions, feel free to contact me via 
> 	> email or let me know if you would like to set up a call with me. 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	>                       Thank you so much for your cooperation. 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	>                       Nataliya Coll 
> 	>                       Research Analyst, Europe & Eurasia 
> 	>                       TeleGeography, a Division of PriMetrica, Inc. 
> 	>                       One Thomas Circle, NW, Suite 360 
> 	>                       Washington, DC 20005 USA 
> 	>                       www.telegeography.com 
> <http://www.telegeography.com> 
> 	> <http://www.telegeography.com> 
> 	>                       +1 (202) 741-0066 
> 	> 
> 	> 
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