So, here I was looking to see if PINE had gotten any better. No issues - PINE is not available under FreeBSD anymore via ports - so no PINE! EVER AGAIN! I win! (though there is this new thing called alpine that looks like some kind of replacement thing - no clue) -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! [log in to unmask] The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune