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If the Juniper systems are stackable EX series switches, then, they will not take a full BGP table. Owen On May 13, 2011, at 9:12 AM, Mike Horwath wrote: > On 5/13/11 11:09 AM, "Justin Krejci" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 15:46 +0000, Mike Horwath wrote: >>> On 5/13/11 10:43 AM, "Justin Krejci" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> >>>> On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 15:11 +0000, Mike Horwath wrote: >>>>> On 5/12/11 6:57 PM, "Justin Krejci" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> As I understand it there is currently no public looking glass or >>> route >>>>>> server for MICE users or the public in general. Any interest in >>> setting >>>>>> something up? I could donate a server or some time to the cause. >>> They >>>>> are >>>>>> quite useful in troubleshooting routing issues or network changes. >>>>> >>>>> You are correct, there isn't. >>>>> >>>>> This could easily run on the system that handles the statistics >>> easily >>>>> enough, just I have no idea how I would tie bird into a LG setup. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Looks like using its CLI will not be immediately compatible with most >>>> (all?) LG tools out there which are seemingly mostly geared around >>>> Cisco, Juniper, and Zebra/Quagga systems it seems. Unless someone knows >>>> of a really great and flexible LG app. >>> >>> Yah, that was my finding as well. >>> >>>> Perhaps a small C/J router could peer up with the two servers to suck >>> in >>>> the routes and be used as the LG source and as a publicly telnet >>>> accessible route server as well. >>> >>> There will be a Juniper in place soon - once that is done, we can look >>> at >>> putting it into the 'route' subsystem (this is *not* a requirement for >>> operation of the peering point, in fact, it could create other issues if >>> something breaks) but we could then query that for data. >> >> If there will be a Juniper router already going into the network anyways >> that would certainly work I should think. Then it can be polled by the >> existing stats server you mentioned. > > ...for a looking glass system. > > (finishing your sentence :) > >>>> >>>> ALso OpenBSD has a good bgp daemon with their own bgplg toools (web and >>>> cli) included. >>> >>>> http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=bgp&sektion=0&manpath=OpenB >>>> SD >>>> +Current&arch=amd64&apropos=1&format=html >>> >>> We aren't using OpenBSD anywhere though...we are using BIRD. >> >> A small OpenBSD server, even a small Soekris style box, can still suck >> up a read-only copy of the routes from the route servers via BGP. No >> real maintenance or overhead once its up and running. The only real >> difference between something like this and using a C/J would be that >> OBSD has all of the tools built in already, so it's a matter of >> convenience and the general dependable security of an OBSD system. I >> have a such Soekris box with a flash drive I could donate to the cause >> as I've been looking for something to do with it besides accessorize my >> desk. I only mention this as an option as I have used OBSD for a long >> time and am familiar with it and it would meet the needs from what I can >> see. > > Sorry, I was being flippant with my comment. > > I'll be direct: no hackery > > When the new Juniper systems are in place, hopefully they are licensed for > BGP, and if that is the case, we can query that with a looking glass > system and use the current stats server to handle this. > > If this does *not* happen then we need to research another solution. > Additional hardware should *not* be needed at all. > > -- > Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! [log in to unmask] > The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is > that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1