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Nevin, that's a great breakdown and thanks. I'm still curious, however, as to what the actual underlying costs for the exchange are today... Does anyone have that data? s *Shaun Carlson *Senior Network Engineer | Arvig ph: (218) 346-8673 | contact: protocol.by/scarlson em: [log in to unmask] On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 10:07 PM, Nevin Lyne <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > I agree with others I don't think GigE port fees should be free, everyone > on the exchange is getting value. > > I am not directly connected to MICE myself, I have donated gear to get it > started, and I gain benefits from it every month. > > I would propose either quarterly or annual billing. > > GigE port = $225/quarter $900/annual ($75/month is the breakdown of course) > 10GE port = $600/quarter $2400/annual ($200/month is the breakdown here of > course :) > > 2nd port on on opposite 2nd switch for redundancy same price as first > port. Need more than 2nd GigE port move to 10GE not more GigE ports. > > I think ideal setup goal would be: > > 2 x EX4200 (96 GigE + each switch has optional 4 x GigE or 2 x 10GE port > expansion) > 2 x EX4500 (80 10GE + each switch has optional 2 x 4 port 10GE expansion > for total of 96 x 10GE) > > 25% occupation rate even across GigE & 10GE would be $1800 + 4800/month = > ~$80k annually > > 50% port occupation rate = ~$160k/yr > > 75% port occupation even across 100/1GE an 10GE ports is almost $250k/yr > > At the 25 to 50% port occupation levels there is easily enough income for > MICE to even branch to other MICE owned switches in logical area locations > that might be easier for some to cross connect into, sponsor tech events in > the area, 1 FTE to manage exchange work, etc. > > This would of course be outside any donations some might still make into > MICE, like I could easily see doing the equiv of a GigE port fee from my > own business as an indirect member of MICE to say I am a member of MICE on > my web site even. > > Seems logical, affordable and fairly easy to manage but just me. > > From a value stand point I pay 2x the above GigE port fee monthly for > parking in downtown Minneapolis and I get far more value from MICE then I > do the parking spot. > > -- Nevin Lyne > -- Founder / Director of Technology > -- Gippy's Internet Solutions, LLC. / EngineHosting.com > > On Saturday, July 21, 2012 9:25am, "Jay Hanke" < > [log in to unmask]> said: > > > On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 12:28 AM, David Farmer <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > >> Those are perfectly reasonable monthly numbers and not a problem. > However, > >> I know the University would prefer an annual charge. Less paperwork, > and > >> less accounting expenses, etc... So please make sure you provide that > as > >> option. Also, the University will probably want a contract and will > >> definitely need an invoice, net 90 generally. > >> > > > > I propose starting CY 2013: > > > > -1st 10/100/1000 port free > > -2nd 1G port ($1000/year) > > -10G port ($2000/year) > > > > Newly paying members would pay for each full quarter they have service. > > Connect in June pay 50%, Connect in Jan pay 75%. They would then go on to > > calendar billing. > > > > Accounting/billing to be figured out by the Steering Committee. Any cash > > donations between now and then will be applied to the member account. > > > > jay > > > > ######################################################################## > > > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1