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On Jul 23, 2012, at 10:23 AM, Mike Horwath wrote: > On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:55:44AM -0500, Shaun Carlson wrote: >> Agreed, this will help us all understand the costs and ensure we're >> covering those and generating a reasonable surplus for equipment >> purchases, etc... > > Expect 200 hours of work from 'volunteers'. Easily. > > Expect at least $70K in hardware alone. (need spares at some point, > need maintenance contracts, need bird replacements if things break) > > yearly items: > > Expect at least $1200 for IP addresses plus another $500 for ASN. > Uh, no... Not annually. Those are the one time fees (actually $1250 for the IPv4 and another $1250 for the IPv6, plus $500 for the ASN), but all of those roll into $100 per year in maintenance fees to ARIN. > Expect at least ~$20K for colo fees (which MAY be waived by Cologix). > > Expect at least $2,400 for cross connect fees (which MAY be waived by > Cologix). > Other than members, what does the exchange XC to? Members should be paying the XC fees to connect to the exchange, IMHO. > Expect to pay something, someday for bandwidth. > Does the exchange buy bandwidth? If so, where and for what purpose? I'm not trying to challenge you here or say we shouldn't, I'm just trying to understand why an exchange point would need to buy bandwidth. > And I am missing things I am sure. > > If this started up Jan, 2013 then we (MICE) would need, at least, > $100,000 to do the year (all revolves around the hardware for the bulk > of it if people keep volunteering time). > > There are also the UG meetings that need to be funded (even if someone > else ends up taking the stage for their donation). > > If there really was 75% usage of the ports as was laid out - the $250K > for the year in revenue would just about cover things. At that point, > with that many 'customers', there will be a need to pay people for > their work, volunteer won't cut it. Gear upgrades will need to be > planned out. Time spent by the steering committee and any > sub-committees (if formed and used) *may* need compensation as well. > > Then expansion has to happen. If $250K for 2013 happens, how does it > grow if that doesn't cover everything? I mean, yes, I'd love to see > this happen and it seems like a pipe dream. > > But all of this is a pipe dream. That's what makes it fun. > > I move to $75 per month for 1Gbps ports, $200 per month for 10Gbps > ports. > > Those numbers seem fair and can support things today but won't > necessarily allow for growth until the bank has some money (which is > also close to zero dollars). I think those are a bit on the low side, frankly. Owen ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1