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I like the $250 a year for everyone, but call it a participation fee, it includes both your IPv4 and IPv6 address and your vote, If they wish it can include their first 1G port or they can participate through a connection to remote switch. I'd even suggest waving the first year's $250, that lets people really see the benefit or not before hitting them up with an invoice. Also, additional IPs could be $250 a year, but only one vote per Org. connecting. That way there is no incentive for connections to remote switch to not be full voting participants. I like the Idea of those that are clearly getting more value, those going for the 2nd GigE or a 10G paying a bit more. For sake of discussion lets say when you are sustaining 500Mb daily peak on the GigE you upgrade to a second or to 10G. A good price for 500Mb burstable or a 1G port is about $1000 a month. So an additional $1000 a year for a second 1G or $2000 a year for 10G is still a good deal compared to transit costs. If you want to make that $2500 for 2nd GigE and $5000 for 10G port for the life time of the switch (3 years or more) I'd be fine with that, too But, if you make it one time without any refresh we will have problems later. The Cologix corss-connect fees are still going to be the dominant expense for most people. Remember Metcalfe's law; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metcalfe%27s_law The benefit of a number of of small guys connecting may be worth more to the rest of us that to themselves. Having those that see clear benefit contribute more makes sense, while still having some minimal contribution from everyone. I wouldn't On 7/23/12 17:17 CDT, Jay Hanke wrote: > After a bunch of discussion both on and off the list, my thinking has > changed a little bit. > > I liked the lump payment with 10G ports idea that Mr Hoyos brought > forward. Also, I like the idea of everyone paying "something". > > Assuming free colo for long term (3-5 years) > > So how about the $5000 payment for new 10G ports on the main switch > and $250 annually for each IP assignment on the fabric regardless of > access method (be it remote or main switch). > > -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:[log in to unmask] Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 =============================================== ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1