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I agree, however for any members running Cisco IOS, this opportunity has already passed during the switch swap outage, since you cannot move the new ip from secondary to primary without causing an outage.  I just hoped they used the planned outage to make the new IP primary, and the old one Secondary. 

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From: MICE Discuss [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Owen DeLong
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 11:29 PM
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Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] MICE Traffic Lower

If we do the renumbering right, you shouldn't have to endure an outage.

You should be able to bring up each new session, wait for it to stabilize, then turn down the old one and not lose a single packet.

Owen

On Sep 5, 2012, at 20:57 , Jeremy Lumby <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Personally I feel that it is probably not the source of decreased traffic, however the IP address renumbering seems to have fallen by the wayside post switch swap out.  I was hoping to only bring my sessions back up after renumbering, so as to not need to take them down again, however when it stalled I decided to bring the old ones back up.  I would like to see some direction from the steering committee as to what time ranges they would like everyone to have the second IP by, and then what stage they would like to see the old IP removed by.  If there is not direction, this will probably hang around forever.  Personally I have contacted the 4 members that only were doing bi-lateral peering, and only 2 of them responded, and got our BGP sessions updated to the new IPs.  Something we should all keep in mind is that the more professionally we operate, the more attractive we look to the larger carriers that are thinking of joining.  I had a network engineer at one such large carrier say to me that they did not want to recommend joining MICE to management because there were no maintenance fees, and therefore they were afraid that MICE may not be around long term for lack of reliable maintenance funds.
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