> In light of this requirement, do we want to spell out that among the > BoG approval criteria is the use of a model/brand of switch compatible > with the knowledge/training of the current fabric administrators? I don't think we need to go to that level of detail. I think requiring a plan as to how the switch will be connected and maintained and how issues are resolved would be sufficient. > Have we documented the criteria for this BoG approval at all? No, I just brought it up because the proposed pricing model distinguishes between MICE ports for fees. I'd love it if someone would take a stab at such a policy. > Is that something we want to do, or just leave it as an assumption that > all parties will work in good faith to do "the right thing" in this > regard? I think the connection and maintenance plan would suffice. > I would clarify the definition as: > A remote switch is any piece of active hardware not owned by MICE which > connects more than one member to the MICE core infrastructure. > Agreed > I would suggest: > All costs and contracts required for remote switches to reach and > connect to the MICE core infrastructure shall be the responsibility > of the remote switch operator. Agreed > >> Grace Period >> >> I'd advocate offering a six month grace for new members on either 1G >> or 10G ports for new participants. >> > I think a 3 month grace period is probably a more reasonable compromise. > I think MICE is well enough established and presents a good enough > value proposition to be attractive to new members as is. I don't know > of any other (paid) IX offering 3 months free service, let alone 6. MICE is just cheaper, faster and better than any of the other paid exchanges you've come across. ;) > >> Small Networks >> > I haven't had a chance to look over the spreadsheet yet, but if $500/year > is the IP fee, that seems rather steep to me. To the best of my knowledge, > an IX is treated as an end-user organization and not a subscriber member > in terms of ARIN fees. That means we should have paid about $2,250 for > our initial IPv6 and IPv4 assignments combined and $500 for our ASN as > a one-time fee, but should be paying $100/year thereafter. We should > never need more IPv6 (a /48 is realistically enough to run several > thousand of the worlds largest exchange points) and I suggest we treat > the cost of additional IPv4 space ($1,250 or $MARKET, depending on > timing) as a problem to solve when we have more than 200 attachments > to the exchange (I think that's a ways off and the cost of IPv4 by then is > unpredictable at best, if it can be obtained at all.) Who cares about v4 anyway? We'll just force them to tunnel their IPv4 over v6. ;) > >> Expansion beyond 511 > Agreed. Any seeding should probably be done by forming a separate > organization and having MICE make an agreed upon (by vote of the members) > contribution to said organization. Exactly > >> Promotion >> > Factual questions (the answers to which might shape members thoughts > on the opinion questions): > How frequent are the UG meetings? 2 per year > What is typical attendance? 20-45 > What level of facilities/etc. is required to hold a UG meeting? > + Banquet room of a restaurant > + Small Conference Room (essentially like a board room) > + Large Conference Room (hotel ballroom in conference configuration) > + Other? (please specify) A good sized banquet room is sufficient. Although missing wifi the last place worked pretty well. > Other than space, what logistics/facilities are required? Food/Drink/Speaker/Connectivity Promotion wise, I was also thinking about sending representatives to other non-MICE events to speak. Mainly for events that we can't cover during our respective day jobs. -- Jay Hanke CTO, CCIE #19093 Mankato Networks LLC PO Box 54 619 S Front St Mankato, MN 56001-3838 Google 530-618-2398 [log in to unmask] http://www.mankatonetworks.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1