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David, 

In no discussion was there a statement about this. 

We would simply ask to opt out. 

Best, 

Marty



> On Dec 5, 2013, at 19:28, "David Farmer" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
>> On 12/5/13, 18:47 , Hannigan, Martin wrote:
>> 
>> On Dec 5, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Anthony Anderberg
>> <[log in to unmask]
>> > wrote:
>> 
>>> Just so we're all clear:
>>> The public graph is the aggregate graph that gets exported and linked
>>> from our home page.  It's a stacked graph where everyone's piece is
>>> the same green color, partially for simplicity but mostly to obscure
>>> the details.
>>> The graph Frank posted is a similar stacked graph, but I've broken the
>>> traffic out a little (also its ingress vs egress as a way of checking
>>> accuracy.)  This graph and the more detailed weathermap are password
>>> protected, although admittedly the password is not particularly robust.
>>> As Steve mentioned over the course of a couple UG meetings we'd
>>> decided that members should be able to see the exchange's traffic
>>> patterns, as they say sunlight can cure a great many things.
>> 
>> We weren't present at the UG's and I don't recall a list discussion. I
>> don't recall being asked.  It's non-standard for an IXP to do this. It
>> should be opt in. I'd certainly like to opt out please.
>> 
>>> To the original question, it looks like a number of us are up this
>>> week – I was thinking it might be holiday shopping.
>>> If anyone is on from Enventis they might want to consider upgrading
>>> their port, looks like it's almost at capacity in the evening hours.
>> 
>> 
>> If these are supposed to be behind lock and key, we failed.
>> 
>> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind1312&L=MICE-DISCUSS&F=&S=&P=1337
>> I'm not logged into anything and that's in the clear.
> 
> Marty,
> 
> There have been several discussions with the subject of stats, cacti 
> graphs, etc on the list, since you subscribed in late 2011.  So, it 
> shouldn't be a complete surprise.  But, I'll agree there wasn't a direct 
> discussion of what graphs and statistics should be kept discussed on the 
> list.
> 
> And, yes, it may have been bad form for Frank to post a graph on the 
> mailing list since it has a public archive.  But, there is a basic 
> password on the graphs themselves.
> 
> So, that brings up a few things it wouldn't hurt to discuss;
> 
> 1. Should the list archive be public?
> 
> 2. If not, what security should the list archive have?
> 
> 3. What graphs and statistics should be collected?
> 
> 4. Who should have access to what graphs and statistics?
> 
> 5. What is the proper security for the graphs and statistics?
> 
> 6. What is the proper etiquette regarding these graphs and statistics?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
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