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   I will have a call with you to discuss this. Lets take it offline.

Reid


On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Hannigan, Martin <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Board,
>
> I haven't heard anything back on this. Can someone let me know where we
> intend to go with this?
>
> Best,
>
> -M<
>
>
>
> On Dec 6, 2013, at 1:15 AM, "Hannigan, Martin" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> >
> > David,
> >
> > In no discussion was there a statement about this.
> >
> > We would simply ask to opt out.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Marty
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Dec 5, 2013, at 19:28, "David Farmer" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 12/5/13, 18:47 , Hannigan, Martin wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Dec 5, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Anthony Anderberg
> >>> <[log in to unmask]
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Just so we're all clear:
> >>>> The public graph is the aggregate graph that gets exported and linked
> >>>> from our home page.  It's a stacked graph where everyone's piece is
> >>>> the same green color, partially for simplicity but mostly to obscure
> >>>> the details.
> >>>> The graph Frank posted is a similar stacked graph, but I've broken the
> >>>> traffic out a little (also its ingress vs egress as a way of checking
> >>>> accuracy.)  This graph and the more detailed weathermap are password
> >>>> protected, although admittedly the password is not particularly
> robust.
> >>>> As Steve mentioned over the course of a couple UG meetings we'd
> >>>> decided that members should be able to see the exchange's traffic
> >>>> patterns, as they say sunlight can cure a great many things.
> >>>
> >>> We weren't present at the UG's and I don't recall a list discussion. I
> >>> don't recall being asked.  It's non-standard for an IXP to do this. It
> >>> should be opt in. I'd certainly like to opt out please.
> >>>
> >>>> To the original question, it looks like a number of us are up this
> >>>> week – I was thinking it might be holiday shopping.
> >>>> If anyone is on from Enventis they might want to consider upgrading
> >>>> their port, looks like it's almost at capacity in the evening hours.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> If these are supposed to be behind lock and key, we failed.
> >>>
> >>>
> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind1312&L=MICE-DISCUSS&F=&S=&P=1337
> >>> I'm not logged into anything and that's in the clear.
> >>
> >> Marty,
> >>
> >> There have been several discussions with the subject of stats, cacti
> >> graphs, etc on the list, since you subscribed in late 2011.  So, it
> >> shouldn't be a complete surprise.  But, I'll agree there wasn't a direct
> >> discussion of what graphs and statistics should be kept discussed on the
> >> list.
> >>
> >> And, yes, it may have been bad form for Frank to post a graph on the
> >> mailing list since it has a public archive.  But, there is a basic
> >> password on the graphs themselves.
> >>
> >> So, that brings up a few things it wouldn't hurt to discuss;
> >>
> >> 1. Should the list archive be public?
> >>
> >> 2. If not, what security should the list archive have?
> >>
> >> 3. What graphs and statistics should be collected?
> >>
> >> 4. Who should have access to what graphs and statistics?
> >>
> >> 5. What is the proper security for the graphs and statistics?
> >>
> >> 6. What is the proper etiquette regarding these graphs and statistics?
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
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