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On Dec 10, 2013, at 10:49 PM, Jay Hanke <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Right on with the agreement. It does say that we may ask for MRTG graph data related to ports statistics. It also says we expect confidentiality. Our port data is confidential. The MICE Board signed this agreement with us.  If we take our port down to the wider audience like we have gracefully requested, we're happy to discuss what the objective is and how we may be helpful. I'll be honest, I doubt that the outcome is "sure, display our data to anyone with a login", but it is likely to be reasonable and inline with North American IXP norms. NETNOD is in Norway and Mice is in North America. NETNOD is also orders of magnitude larger than MICE. That's not the solution.
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Can you narrow down the scope better? Keep in mind we have no formally defined admins, so if you say admin you'll need to lay that out as well.




Sure. And thanks for the call this morning, I appreciated it. When we define admins they should be folks with enable on the gear who have it to fix problems. There should also be a basic expectation of privacy of that data. Admins emailing. me and saying "Hey! Where's your port upgrade!" is fine, but emailing the entire list with that is probably not ok. That should apply across the organization. This would be a fairly standard interpretation of how things are done at IXP's in North America and depending upon the final language I would be pleased to support.

As far as my data being "public" I'm going to disagree with the board that any member with a login != public so I'm still asking that they remove my graph until we have a better solution. I'm a former MRTG user and maker of pages to monitor things with SNMP, I'm well aware of how to make this work and I'm happy to volunteer to help manage the cacti instance if it would be helpful. 

There are multiple good reasons for this approach. Unfortunately, the UG meeting conflicts with my Super Bowl vacation or I would come to do a presentation for you on this. Perhaps next one. 

I hope this helps to clarify and move us along. And as soon as we get this resolved I'll start working to add my second 10G. :-)

Best,

-M<




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