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Marty- I welcome you to Minnesota, the land of 10000 lakes, and 10000 CLECS. :-) Reid On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 6:14 PM, Hannigan, Martin <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Right. Issue is utilization. If you can go passive 100 that's cheapish > compared to transit at n utilization and minus 9 x-con fees over useful > life etc. > > The other option is shared WDM. Some are asking for that option in many > places and seeing it happen. Not really managed waves. > > Why so much fiber in m/stp? What's there? > > > > > > > On Dec 5, 2014, at 18:09, Mike Horwath <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > >> On Fri, Dec 05, 2014 at 04:39:07PM -0500, Reid Fishler wrote: > >> Dark fiber in MSP isn't plentiful. I wish it was! > > > > I can't agree with this. > > > > I would change it to: Dark fiber in MSP isn't plentiful in an > > affordable fashion. > > > > Cause that's the issue. When Zayo wants $5K to run from 2nd Ave S and > > 4 St to 511 you know something is up and it ain't the fiber. > > > > (this is directly a quote from Zayo for a single pair even though AFS > > was across the aisle and of thefibers there almost nothing > > was lit on the panel that I could see) > > > > -- > > Mike Horwath, reachable via [log in to unmask] > > -- Reid Fishler Director Hurricane Electric +1-510-580-4178