Actually, the NFP process and equipment costs are by far the largest
killers.
MICE has less than $2500 in annual opex if you exclude the NFP legal fees.
We almost had to stop adding members last year due to running out of ports.
All of the other things have been inkind (printing/pins/website etc)
Keep in mind that we haven't had a checkbook since 2014.
On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Hannigan, Martin <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> Why don't you start with a budget and then fund it? Maybe thats $50 per
> user. Maybe not. Did we ever kick out an operating budget? I'd guess yes.
>
> Port expense is not the killer here. Its cash flow and opex.
>
>
>
> On Jun 16, 2016, at 15:28, Steve Howard <[log in to unmask]
> <[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
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> Here is a starting point for a discussion:
>
> 1Gbps $200/month
> 10Gbps $1000/year
>
> Everybody invoiced ANNUALLY. First year/partial year free. i.e. Whoever
> is active on January 1 gets a bill.
>
> All amounts are suggested donations (for now). i.e. You won't be
> disconnected if you don't pay (yet). However that could change at any
> time. Especially if we run out of ports, in that case the members who have
> historically paid for their port(s) take precedence over those who haven't.
>
> End users of remote switches pay as above. Remote switches do not pay as
> long as their end users pay enough to make up for the ports used by the
> remote switch. For example, the CNS switch has 3x10Gbps ports connecting
> to the main MICE switch. The five CNS end users pay $1,000 each, this
> covers the $3,000 cost of the three ports to the CNS switch. If CNS has
> only two users paying $1,000 each, then CNS would owe $1,000.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 06/16/2016 01:53 PM, Jason Hanke wrote:
>
> I'm quietly awaiting a counter proposal...
>
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Reid Fishler <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> SIX also has a ton of donations coming in. They were a VERY early
>> exchange out there. They did what they did VERY well, and we use some of
>> their structure in MICE. But lets not think that single one time port fees
>> would suddenly make us golden.
>>
>> Reid
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 2:44 PM, Jason Hanke <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> There was quite a bit of talk regarding port fees at NANOG earlier this
>>> week.
>>>
>>> There was also seemingly universal accolades going to the SiX in Seattle.
>>>
>>> Here is the schedule of fees at the SiX:
>>>
>>> https://www.seattleix.net/join
>>>
>>>
>>> This may be a reasonable starting point for MICE.
>>>
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