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I like that Owen says he wants to build consensus on what to do with the model.  MICE sustainability is important.  Many of us count on it now.

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Dan Boehlke
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> On Sep 7, 2016, at 2:51 PM, Steve Howard <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> On 09/07/2016 02:39 PM, James Renken wrote:
>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 08:33, Jason Hanke <[log in to unmask]>  wrote:
>>> Up to this point MICE has been fairly successful without any required port fees for members. There have been minor difficulties paying hardware support and annual ARIN fees. We have reached a long-term (5 year) agreement with Cologix to continue the existing no cost relationship for space and power.
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>>> Do you see the finical current model as sustainable for MICE? What changes would you suggest on the business side?
>> I’m not sure we can stay with our current model over the long term. We can rely on our great (and mutually beneficial) relationship with Cologix for space and power, but I don’t think we can assume we’ll always be able to get financial or hardware donations, especially on short notice. The industry is only getting more challenging; we should work towards self-sufficiency. That would mean port fees.
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>> I think we should base port fees on our budget: ARIN fees, hardware support, and accumulating enough savings to replace our core switch with a newer, refurbished model by the end of its useful life. We should also plan to gradually save extra for emergencies like legal fees; I agree with Owen, saving over a period of maybe five years.
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>> I’d also like to consider whether we should exempt non-profit and government entities from port fees. There are few enough that it doesn’t seem like a large burden for the rest of us.
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> Why would we want to exempt non-profit and government entities?  
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> MICE is a cooperative exchange.  Every member should be treated the same.  
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> If you'd like to support non-profits and governmental entities, you are free to pay their fees.  Don't force others to pay somebody else's fair share.
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