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To further add to Anthony's comments, I plan on keeping the MICE access portion of the remote switch completely free even if MICE starts charging port fees on the main switch.

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Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] MN VoIP Remote Switch Request

> Cologix's suite 100 in the 511 Building.

In this respect Jeremy's plan is similar to the CNS and Mankato Networks remote switches, which are both within a few dozen feet of the main switch stack.  I can certainly picture that potential members who were quite small would need to carefully weigh the cost of a dedicated main switch cross connect, especially in the beginning when the value-add is unknown.

If I put my "guy counting the traffic" hat on I'd like to be able to enumerate the individual member's links, but understand that if their switch port is used for multiple things breaking out MICE traffic will be problematic so we'd need to just count the aggregate uplink in/out traffic.  That's what we do with the Mankato Networks remote switch today.

With my MICE tech hat on we've said that if a participant was causing trouble behind a remote switch we didn't have access to we'd cut off the remote switch's uplink if we were unable to get ahold of the remote switch operator.    That's the situation with the Neutral Path and CNS remote switches today (not that we've ever had trouble with them.)

So my $0.02 would be that as we've grown we've struggled with how to keep costs reasonable for smaller members, and that this provides them with one more option to participate - so it's all good.

Cheers,
anthony

Anthony Anderberg
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Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 10:54 AM
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Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] MN VoIP Remote Switch Request

> On Nov 22, 2016, at 10:44 AM, Richard Laager <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> The switch would be operated by MN VoIP. It would be located in
> Cologix's suite 100 in the 511 Building.

Given this switch would be located in 511, would more new members be enabled to more easily connect by having this remote switch in place, beyond just MN VoIP? If so, how many? Or is there some additional transport/regional areas you are opening up for access to MICE by having this in place?

Otherwise, I’m struggling to see much value in having yet another switch at 511.

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