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Doug,

Please do go ahead and expand passive BFD. Everyone on one route server followed by the second route server a few days later should be fine.

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Richard

> On Apr 26, 2017, at 10:51, Doug McIntyre <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 09:19:39AM -0500, Mike Horwath wrote:
>> Bilateral are unaffected and they can arrange things anyway with their
>> peers.
> 
> I think there is a lot more bilateral BGP going on across MICE than you think.
> While I probably go talk to anybody, I have 11 unilateral peers on MICE besides
> the two route servers.
> 
> I think BFD for BGP would do a lot more good than BGP filtering if people would
> implement it.
> 
> Speaking of that, I have passive BFD testing on route server #1 for quite some time.
> I've heard of zero problems.
> 
> I would like to go more widespread than the test people (ie. offer it
> to every member connection on route server #1)
> 
> Since it is passive, the member end drives it, if they do it, the
> route server will do it, if they don't, nothing else happens. I'd also like
> to roll out passive BFD as default for new members. 
> 
> 
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> Doug McIntyre                            <[log in to unmask]>
>                    ~.~ ipHouse ~.~
>       Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades