In general you can get a little better granular control of your session if you are bilaterally peered since not all IX route servers support communities, and have different security features supported/enabled.  Not all implementations of communities are as detailed as you can get bilaterally.  There is also one less point of failure when not using routeservers.

 

From: MICE Discuss [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Darin Steffl
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 9:59 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today

 

Ok I know that Google is on the route servers so is there any advantage to establishing a direct peering session with them? 

 

Their peering site says the following: Although Google connects to Internet Exchange route servers where present, Google prefers to establish direct BGP sessions for traffic exchange.

 

On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 8:59 PM Jeremy Lumby <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

MICE only has a cache, and the other IXes have full backbone routes.

 

From: MICE Discuss [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Darin Steffl
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 8:56 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today

 

Sorry to go off topic a little but why isn't Google advertising their main AS 15169 on MICE? Their website shows Minneapolis being one of their Edge POPs but they're using their less common AS 36040 here.

 

Anyone know why we're not as cool as the other IX's they're on with 15169?

 

On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 8:21 PM Jeremy Lumby <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

I have noticed that Google has had me redirected to their cache on The Kansas City Internet Exchange most of the day.

2602:ffaa:0:7:8d5:1b2c:f084:513c => google-mci2 : superx_isp_number: 3 (2602:ffaa::/36)

 

 

 

From: MICE Discuss [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 8:14 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today

 

FYI, we saw our BGP session drop with AS36040 several times today:

  • 12:08:46 to 12:08:51 pm
  • 2:01 to 2:02 pm
  • ~4:02 to ~4:04 pm
  • ~7:36 to ~7:38 pm

 

Graphs show some serious stability issues:

 

Error! Filename not specified.

 

Regards,

 

Frank

 


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