They want some of us to pay for our own transport to Chicago. Ben Wiechman Director of Network Strategy and Engineering 320.247.3224 | [log in to unmask] Arvig | 224 East Main Street | Melrose, MN 56352 | arvig.com On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 4:40 PM Corey Hauer <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > I am glad this got re-raised for visibility. I apparently missed it. > Thanks for the link to establish bilateral sessions. > > It's hard to contemplate how Google still keeps their MICE pipes > near-maxed 90% of the time, knowing that we can't be the only one that > missed this change. I am sure Google has their reasons for not expanding > their MICE capacity, although it seems strange to me in a vacuum. > > Corey > > On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 12:42 PM Anthony Anderberg < > [log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> Yes, in last fall’s meeting we reminded everyone that they needed to >> create bilateral sessions with Google right away if they hadn’t already >> done so. >> >> >> >> >> >> *From: *MICE Discuss <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of >> Jeremy Lumby <[log in to unmask]> >> *Reply-To: *MICE Discuss <[log in to unmask]> >> *Date: *Wednesday, April 3, 2024 at 2:38 PM >> *To: *MICE Discuss <[log in to unmask]> >> *Subject: *Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Fwd: Google - Drain of routes for >> Route-Servers in your IX >> >> >> >> They did it to MICE back in December >> >> >> >> *From:* MICE Discuss <[log in to unmask]> * On Behalf Of *Richard >> Laager >> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 3, 2024 2:32 PM >> *To:* [log in to unmask] >> *Subject:* [MICE-DISCUSS] Fwd: Google - Drain of routes for >> Route-Servers in your IX >> >> >> >> I haven't heard this for MICE, but presumably they will be doing the same >> thing here? >> >> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >> >> *Subject: * >> >> Google - Drain of routes for Route-Servers in your IX (fwd) >> >> *Date: * >> >> Wed, 3 Apr 2024 14:31:55 +0000 (UTC) >> >> *From: * >> >> Chris Caputo <[log in to unmask]> <[log in to unmask]> >> >> *To: * >> >> [log in to unmask] >> >> >> >> FYI from Google... >> >> Chris >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2024 04:21:02 -0700 >> From: Google Peering Operations <[log in to unmask]> >> <[log in to unmask]> >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: Drain of routes for Route-Servers in your IX >> >> Dear Internet Exchange, >> >> As part of Google's effort to simplify peering operations and increase >> routing security we have decided to stop advertising and receiving prefix >> information from Route-Servers in Internet Exchanges. The BGP session with >> the route servers will remain established. We are planning to implement the >> change in your IX in the next few weeks. >> >> We won’t disconnect from the IX and we will keep current BGP bilateral >> sessions with individual peers on the IX. We invite other networks that >> rely on Route-Servers to request a bilateral session. Bilateral session >> request can be done at: https://isp.google.com/iwantpeering >> >> We kindly request you to inform peers in your Internet Exchange of these >> future changes so they can request bilateral sessions with us if they >> desire to do so. >> >> Sincerely, >> Google Network Operations >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >