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Ben Wiechman

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On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 4:40 PM Corey Hauer <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> I am glad this got re-raised for visibility. I apparently missed it.
> Thanks for the link to establish bilateral sessions.
>
> It's hard to contemplate how Google still keeps their MICE pipes
> near-maxed 90% of the time, knowing that we can't be the only one that
> missed this change. I am sure Google has their reasons for not expanding
> their MICE capacity, although it seems strange to me in a vacuum.
>
> Corey
>
> On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 12:42 PM Anthony Anderberg <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>> Yes, in last fall’s meeting we reminded everyone that they needed to
>> create bilateral sessions with Google right away if they hadn’t already
>> done so.
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>> *From: *MICE Discuss <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of
>> Jeremy Lumby <[log in to unmask]>
>> *Reply-To: *MICE Discuss <[log in to unmask]>
>> *Date: *Wednesday, April 3, 2024 at 2:38 PM
>> *To: *MICE Discuss <[log in to unmask]>
>> *Subject: *Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Fwd: Google - Drain of routes for
>> Route-Servers in your IX
>>
>>
>>
>> They did it to MICE back in December
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>> *From:* MICE Discuss <[log in to unmask]> * On Behalf Of *Richard
>> Laager
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 3, 2024 2:32 PM
>> *To:* [log in to unmask]
>> *Subject:* [MICE-DISCUSS] Fwd: Google - Drain of routes for
>> Route-Servers in your IX
>>
>>
>>
>> I haven't heard this for MICE, but presumably they will be doing the same
>> thing here?
>>
>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>
>> *Subject: *
>>
>> Google - Drain of routes for Route-Servers in your IX (fwd)
>>
>> *Date: *
>>
>> Wed, 3 Apr 2024 14:31:55 +0000 (UTC)
>>
>> *From: *
>>
>> Chris Caputo <[log in to unmask]> <[log in to unmask]>
>>
>> *To: *
>>
>> [log in to unmask]
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>>
>> FYI from Google...
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2024 04:21:02 -0700
>> From: Google Peering Operations <[log in to unmask]>
>> <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Drain of routes for Route-Servers in your IX
>>
>> Dear Internet Exchange,
>>
>> As part of Google's effort to simplify peering operations and increase
>> routing security we have decided to stop advertising and receiving prefix
>> information from Route-Servers in Internet Exchanges. The BGP session with
>> the route servers will remain established. We are planning to implement the
>> change in your IX in the next few weeks.
>>
>> We won’t disconnect from the IX and we will keep current BGP bilateral
>> sessions with individual peers on the IX. We invite other networks that
>> rely on Route-Servers to request a bilateral session. Bilateral session
>> request can be done at: https://isp.google.com/iwantpeering
>>
>> We kindly request you to inform peers in your Internet Exchange of these
>> future changes so they can request bilateral sessions with us if they
>> desire to do so.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Google Network Operations
>>
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