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MICE-DISCUSS December 2012

Subject:

Re: MICE Renumbering

From:

David Farmer <[log in to unmask]>

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MICE Discuss <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sun, 16 Dec 2012 21:11:00 -0600

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Well, here is what I was seeing earlier;

*  63.127.10.0/23   69.147.218.14                 180      0 25694 18606 i
*>                  69.147.218.14                 180      0 25694 18606 i
*  64.244.48.0/20   69.147.218.14            0    180      0 25694 i
*>                  69.147.218.14            0    180      0 25694 i
*  69.67.16.0/20    69.147.218.14            0    180      0 25694 i
*>                  69.147.218.14            0    180      0 25694 i
*  71.5.104.0/21    69.147.218.14            0    180      0 25694 i
*>                  69.147.218.14            0    180      0 25694 i
*  74.202.238.0/24  69.147.218.14            0    180      0 25694 i
*>                  69.147.218.14            0    180      0 25694 i
*  74.202.239.0/24  69.147.218.14            0    180      0 25694 i
*>                  69.147.218.14            0    180      0 25694 i
*  199.66.72.0/22   69.147.218.14            0    180      0 25694 i
*>                  69.147.218.14            0    180      0 25694 i
*  204.17.210.0     69.147.218.14                 180      0 25694 40796 i
*>                  69.147.218.14                 180      0 25694 40796 i

And, here is what I am seeing now;

*  63.127.10.0/23   206.108.255.14                180      0 25694 18606 i
*>                  206.108.255.14                180      0 25694 18606 i
*  64.244.48.0/20   206.108.255.14           0    180      0 25694 i
*>                  206.108.255.14           0    180      0 25694 i
*  69.67.16.0/20    206.108.255.14           0    180      0 25694 i
*>                  206.108.255.14           0    180      0 25694 i
*  71.5.104.0/21    206.108.255.14           0    180      0 25694 i
*>                  206.108.255.14           0    180      0 25694 i
*  74.202.238.0/24  206.108.255.14           0    180      0 25694 i
*>                  206.108.255.14           0    180      0 25694 i
*  74.202.239.0/24  206.108.255.14           0    180      0 25694 i
*>                  206.108.255.14           0    180      0 25694 i
*  199.66.72.0/22   206.108.255.14           0    180      0 25694 i
*>                  206.108.255.14           0    180      0 25694 i
*  204.17.210.0     206.108.255.14                180      0 25694 40796 i
*>                  206.108.255.14                180      0 25694 40796 i

What every you did its announcing the new next-hop addresses now.  Maybe 
you were having a similar issue to what the CDW/Berbee guys were.  I 
apologize, and hopefully everyone's issues are as simple.

Thanks.

On 12/16/12 20:40 , Larry Patterson wrote:
> David,
>
> We've been announcing on both ranges for quite some time.  We only left
> the old ones up because many bi-lateral's had not changed to our new peers
> yet.  I've just turned down all of our old peering sessions now.  I think
> that you are incorrect that we were announcing via only our old next-hop
> address.  We were announcing via both, I can assure you of this.  Just to
> be sure (and to be compliant with the schedule), I've turned down all of
> our old IPv4 and IPv6 sessions.  Please let me know if you see any issues.
>
> Thanks,
> Larry Patterson ­ Chief Technology Officer
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> On 12/16/12 8:22 PM, "David Farmer" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> I apologize for implying you hadn't done you part and thanks for fixing
>> it, I now see you announcing the new next-hop address.
>>
>> On 12/16/12 20:11 , James Stahr wrote:
>>> I can't speak for anyone else, but I thought I had completed the
>>> changes by swapping my $C secondary addresses around a few weeks ago and
>>> thought I was done.  But it looks like I did the swap too quickly and
>>> even though 69.147.218.26 was now a secondary address and all of my BGP
>>> sessions were using 206.108.255.26 as the source IP, I was still
>>> advertising the next-hop using the old block.  Turns out if the BGP
>>> sessions don't drop, the next-hop won't change.  As I've previously
>>> stated, my $C equipment cannot advertise routes with BOTH next-hops.
>>>
>>> -James
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: David Farmer [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 7:46 PM
>>> To: MICE Discuss; [log in to unmask]; James Stahr; [log in to unmask];
>>> [log in to unmask]
>>> Cc: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: MICE Renumbering
>>>
>>> OK, I think it is now time for a little public shaming; the following
>>> MICE participants are only announcing their prefixes using the old
>>> next-hop addresses through the route servers.  We were all suppose to be
>>> using only the new addresses as of two weeks ago.  There is one other
>>> participant announce with both the old and the new next-hop address, we
>>> (Northern Lights GigAPOP) just stopped doing this earlier today, and are
>>> now announcing using only the new next-hop addresses.  All other
>>> participants are announcing to the route servers are using only the new
>>> next-hop addresses.
>>>
>>> AS33362 Wikstrom Telephone Company (Wiktel)
>>> AS25694 Atomic Data
>>> AS15011 Jaguar Communications
>>> AS3599  CDW/Berbee
>>>
>>> Please convert your peering session to announcing with the new next-hop
>>> addresses, ASAP.  If for some reason you can't do this in the next week,
>>> please send a note to the MICE-DISCUSS mailing list detailing when you
>>> will be converting.
>>>
>>> As a reminder, here is the original cutover schedule that was emailed
>>> out several months ago:
>>>
>>> Addition of Address Secondary:           before 10/1/2012
>>> New Prefix Announcements:                after 10/1/2012
>>> Final use of old IP address next-hop:    before 11/30/2012
>>> Removal of old IP address range:         after 12/1/2012
>>> Project End:                             12/31/2012
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>> --
>>> ================================================
>>> David Farmer               Email: [log in to unmask]
>>> Office of Information Technology
>>> University of Minnesota
>>> 2218 University Ave SE     Phone: 1-612-626-0815
>>> Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029  Cell: 1-612-812-9952
>>> ================================================
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> ================================================
>> David Farmer               Email: [log in to unmask]
>> Office of Information Technology
>> University of Minnesota
>> 2218 University Ave SE     Phone: 1-612-626-0815
>> Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029  Cell: 1-612-812-9952
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