I represent 2 different networks in different capacities, AS53740 (optbit, personal research and education) and AS3789 (Essentia Health, https://www.essentiahealth.org/about/).
Both networks are based out of Duluth and neither of them are current members of MICE.
A remote switch in Duluth would lower the barrier to entry for a number of organizations that provide regional content and resources.
For AS3789, it would mean providing better access to telehealth resources in a traditionally underserved region where high latencies and low bandwidth have caused slow adoption.
I would be in favor of a remote switch in Duluth.
From: MICE Discuss <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of Richard Laager
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 2:52 PM
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Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] RFC: Remote Switch in Duluth
The following is from Ryan Goldberg of Compudyne:
Compudyne/AS47096 is interested in operating a MICE remote switch in Duluth.
We have two 10G paths from 511 to Duluth (one on Charter, one on
Enventis) in a ring of 5 Juniper MX boxes (2 at 511, 3 in Duluth – the 3 in Duluth are interconnected over dark fiber). We hit a little over 5G on 5min averages in total between the two 511<->Duluth legs. Latency is 4-5ms.
We currently participate in MICE via MNVoip’s extension, mainly because it makes more overall sense to pick up MICE + SIX + Denver + KC all on one interface (for now). We’d probable leave it like that for a while.
For the proposed extension switch we’d do a two site VPLS config on the MXes, with on a fresh, dedicated 10gig port at 511 and corresponding 10gig port in Duluth. We’d start with an EX4200-24F in Duluth, and run the usual Juniper-y stuff (from http://micemn.net/technical.html).
Initial participants would only be on 1gig ports on the 4200.
As for location, we’re currently leaning toward “the Missabe Building”
at 227 W 1st St, Duluth, MN – this is our primary downtown Duluth POP, and aside from our fiber, and there’s high-count fiber from at least 5 other carriers in the building. The space has dual AC and is backed by generator power.
Upgrade path is 100G 511<->Duluth, at least on one leg. If business drives it, we’ll just do it. Otherwise it’s budgeted for next year. As for the switch, we’d move to a ex4550.
Without taking any position on this here yet, I'd like to highlight a couple of facts:
The proposed transport is over a VPLS link (i.e. shared with other traffic, not a dedicated wave).
In the past, and quite possibly still, we have had participants connected over shared links, but not entire remote switches.