If the Juniper systems are stackable EX series switches, then, they will
not take a full BGP table.
Owen
On May 13, 2011, at 9:12 AM, Mike Horwath wrote:
> On 5/13/11 11:09 AM, "Justin Krejci" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 15:46 +0000, Mike Horwath wrote:
>>> On 5/13/11 10:43 AM, "Justin Krejci" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 15:11 +0000, Mike Horwath wrote:
>>>>> On 5/12/11 6:57 PM, "Justin Krejci" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> As I understand it there is currently no public looking glass or
>>> route
>>>>>> server for MICE users or the public in general. Any interest in
>>> setting
>>>>>> something up? I could donate a server or some time to the cause.
>>> They
>>>>> are
>>>>>> quite useful in troubleshooting routing issues or network changes.
>>>>>
>>>>> You are correct, there isn't.
>>>>>
>>>>> This could easily run on the system that handles the statistics
>>> easily
>>>>> enough, just I have no idea how I would tie bird into a LG setup.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Looks like using its CLI will not be immediately compatible with most
>>>> (all?) LG tools out there which are seemingly mostly geared around
>>>> Cisco, Juniper, and Zebra/Quagga systems it seems. Unless someone knows
>>>> of a really great and flexible LG app.
>>>
>>> Yah, that was my finding as well.
>>>
>>>> Perhaps a small C/J router could peer up with the two servers to suck
>>> in
>>>> the routes and be used as the LG source and as a publicly telnet
>>>> accessible route server as well.
>>>
>>> There will be a Juniper in place soon - once that is done, we can look
>>> at
>>> putting it into the 'route' subsystem (this is *not* a requirement for
>>> operation of the peering point, in fact, it could create other issues if
>>> something breaks) but we could then query that for data.
>>
>> If there will be a Juniper router already going into the network anyways
>> that would certainly work I should think. Then it can be polled by the
>> existing stats server you mentioned.
>
> ...for a looking glass system.
>
> (finishing your sentence :)
>
>>>>
>>>> ALso OpenBSD has a good bgp daemon with their own bgplg toools (web and
>>>> cli) included.
>>>
>>>> http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=bgp&sektion=0&manpath=OpenB
>>>> SD
>>>> +Current&arch=amd64&apropos=1&format=html
>>>
>>> We aren't using OpenBSD anywhere though...we are using BIRD.
>>
>> A small OpenBSD server, even a small Soekris style box, can still suck
>> up a read-only copy of the routes from the route servers via BGP. No
>> real maintenance or overhead once its up and running. The only real
>> difference between something like this and using a C/J would be that
>> OBSD has all of the tools built in already, so it's a matter of
>> convenience and the general dependable security of an OBSD system. I
>> have a such Soekris box with a flash drive I could donate to the cause
>> as I've been looking for something to do with it besides accessorize my
>> desk. I only mention this as an option as I have used OBSD for a long
>> time and am familiar with it and it would meet the needs from what I can
>> see.
>
> Sorry, I was being flippant with my comment.
>
> I'll be direct: no hackery
>
> When the new Juniper systems are in place, hopefully they are licensed for
> BGP, and if that is the case, we can query that with a looking glass
> system and use the current stats server to handle this.
>
> If this does *not* happen then we need to research another solution.
> Additional hardware should *not* be needed at all.
>
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